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audioaxes · Jul 30, 2006, 07:42 PM // 19:42

who cares if it took months to make a horrible new interface, thats anets fault for misusing resources when there's tons of more useful stuff to improve or debug

So_Not_Toast · Jul 30, 2006, 07:53 PM // 19:53

flaming is critizing now a days?

anet made the change, some like it some do. thats going to happen

some people are having medical problems related to it, and anet is sitting there refusing to make a change. this is the enlying problem. Then as their reasoning they send a person who doesnt not have the knowledge or expertise to explain why it is so hard for them to make the change or revert.

Zehnchu · Jul 30, 2006, 07:54 PM // 19:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I do not read that most people are asking simply for colours changes. Would that truly solve issues like placement, functionality, spell casting windows, fonts, and the design of key elements? Feedback is welcome, and if colour issues are key, sure, that's really good to know! But I sensed there were many different requests for change beyond that. Perhaps I'm mistaken, though.

I think simple changes in colors would be a fix to a lot of problems people are having, until or even if it is possible a more permanent situation can be offered.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derrick the Nomad

the point of this thread should be to help and support jenias -not flame Gaile.

QFT

So_Not_Toast · Jul 30, 2006, 08:12 PM // 20:12

the op didnt say anything other then she was having problems. other people have asked why the problem cant be fixed.

just call me jimmy · Jul 30, 2006, 08:39 PM // 20:39

Well the post I put was wrote the most profesional way I know. Funny how the very next post starts with "shakes head"
It is easy within this thread to remove the people who are just complaing about the interface (only a few) and those that want to help. After reading everything I realy do not see any Galie flaming or Anet flaming. What I do see are people trying to help!! Sometimes in life you have to be forecefull in projecting your views in order to get responces!! Adjusting monitor resolutions or changing graphics card rezolutions can be pretty daunting tasks. To some they are easy things to change, to others they are not!!!
What is needed here is to help Jenias, and any GW player with the same problems with the new UI.
What people with far more programing smarts than I are asking is why it would be so hard to give people an option. We have options to remove terrain and sky, shadows and other graphics. Why would it be so hard to have an option to remove colour effects.
The idea is to help a fellow player, not yell at others who are trying to do that.

Da Cebuano · Jul 30, 2006, 08:43 PM // 20:43

Hmm, I really doubt anything will change over this, but here's some suggestions:
-Turn gamma/brightness down
-wear shades......believe it or not I think this will be most beneficial for you.
-make your icons smaller, should reduce some eye stress.

Anyway, I, among the majority love the new interface, its so much more streamlined and up to date, it shows progress and improves the graphic quality.

Mr. G · Jul 30, 2006, 08:52 PM // 20:52

I will now describe what I like to call the "marmite" factor.

Anet have a lot of very talented people working for them who all want to show there skills to the best of there abillities. This often produces a high quality result, but can be a bit overwhelming - They dont just reach the finish line they circle the globe.

A too many cooks problem

So the final product is released and the boards are flooded with "OMG that horible" or "YAY! This rocks" - now who do they listen to? There can be no sudden changes or it'll just happen again.

I noticed a lot of things on guild wars have been cast out and slowly reeled back in to a reasoable level - If you think this isnt true think of the new dervish (the over/underpower slowly being fixed, the endless posting Flaming/Loving them)

Now I dont want to seem heartless, and i can see how this new interface can be a problem for some people - All i can say is Trust Anet, int he end they will fix it, they have filled the niche for a non-subscrition game, and need more buyers to fill the subscription void. They need us. But they are not our slaves. So its "marmite" - You love it or you hate it. Im sure some people even liked new coke

-Well thats my opinion, a cheesy collection of way to may metaphores and food refences, and 4 year old spelling and if your wondering about my name, thats what you get for using autofill-

-signed in support of a fair compramise

Mr. G · Jul 30, 2006, 09:23 PM // 21:23

I suppose...... ok how about

Trust Anet to fix it eventually if its not too much trouble and they have nothing better to do and even if its just cuase too many people have complianed - even though they could implement some of the great guild features they promised us, that is if they really care or just want as much money as possible?

I suppose Trust anet was a bit wishfull and vauge

So_Not_Toast · Jul 30, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

gaile has said that they will not change.

so either re read the post and point out where they have mentioned anything close to saying they will change it, or rethink your view.

Solar_Takfar · Jul 30, 2006, 09:37 PM // 21:37

they did (finally) address the decaying minions during cutscene problem... I guess someday they'll come around to fixing most stuff people don't like about. Maybe by the time chapter 16 is out.

Trance Addict · Jul 30, 2006, 10:32 PM // 22:32

some people are having medical problems related to it, and anet is sitting there refusing to make a change. this is the enlying problem. Then as their reasoning they send a person who doesnt not have the knowledge or expertise to explain why it is so hard for them to make the change or revert.

What the hell are you saying? Every single thing made in the world should be created so that 0.00001% of the population could use it? I read her story slipping in and out and it doesn't sound fun. Living your life in a game isn't normal; no one should be doing that, no matter under what conditions you're living. There's plenty of disabled people living on planet. Hell, we have some "slower" people who work at the same place I do. They do their jobs. Some of their disabilities are more obvious than others, but these people manage to live, make friends and make money, pretty much like normal people. I don't even know where I'm going with this. I don't know if it's the anger or the pity, or both, but to the topic creator, are you REALLY asking a whole company to change something just because it bothers a few people? Do you know how much time and money would be wasted if every single company did that? You cannot please everyone. I was bothered by the new interface, but after about 30 minutes of playing, I didn't even notice the changes. You're wasting time hoping for things that probably won't happen. And if you're story is true, well I'm sorry, but you shouldn't just be playing this game, unless you have the use of none of your senses, are hideous, live in the country, etc. Plenty of people are willing to help you and treat you like a perfectly normal person, you're just lazying around. Also, you should be complaining about the garbage called Dervish they added, not some silly interface changes.

and lol @ these forums not supporting basic <HTML> how fun... no more editing starting...... NOW

Urban_Nomad · Jul 30, 2006, 10:48 PM // 22:48

Everyone seems to be treating this a s a medical problem, when it really isn't. I know some people do have medical conditions regarding this, but the fact is, anybody who stares at a computer monitor for hours at a time eventually gets a headache. It shouldn't happen when you play for only a couple of hours, though. Brighter colors like these make it harder on EVERYONE's eyes, whether they get a headaches or not. And this is just going to cause more headaches in a shorter amount of time. Everyone normally gets a headache if they play for maybe 5 or 6 hours, give or take, but this is just making it worse. People who have noe medical conditions are still straining their eyes and getting aches within an hour or two.

People keep telling everyone who says they had a headache to go see a doctor. The thing is, there is nothing wrong with the majority of these people, they just have sensitive eyes. These aren't "disabled" people, they are perfectly normal people. It probably won't be any more than a nuisance to most, and won't even affect a lot of people, but it is still a lot greater than simply those with medical conditions.

So_Not_Toast · Jul 30, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49

re go iway some more

anet is going to have the code for the old interface laying somewhere, even if they cant add a drop down list, the code is there, say it was a beta test, and it didnt go over well. which it didnt.

Trance Addict · Jul 30, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Iway? Hell no. D/Mos ftw. I'll be cool like those Spearmen gamers~~ boy are they awesome!

I don't mind this interface, or the old one. I just mind her asking for pity and changes just because she's different. Her post could've been the same minus the whole disabilities part and living her life in this game. Sure, ArenaNet hasn't done shit and from the looks of this new horrible "expansion", they're not doing much to help themselves. Little things in the game itself might be decent, but ArenaNet is serious business. They know what they're doing. Instead of giving monsters better AI? Just make them do more 600 damage a hit! They're taking shortcuts that do nothing in the longterm. Hell, I'm down from playing about ~5 hours a day to playing 2 or 3 GvGs a night. What killed it? Retarded PvE and the fact that skill buffs/nerfs come out once every 3 months. They have to keep shit new and interesting. People still running IWAY (which I do not hate anymore) after what? Nearly a year after it was thought of? I'm buying Nightfall for the simple reason that the original Guild Wars occupied me for over a year and they deserve more than the initial 50$ I paid for it.

On a side note, looking at the other people's replies, if I wanted something changed, I'd just take a picture of me holding up my kitty with a gun to it's head and saying "Have pity for my kitty and give monsters better AI/More PvP maps/Bigger Storage, etc".

Eet GnomeSmasher · Jul 30, 2006, 11:01 PM // 23:01

I really don't understand how so many people claim that the colours are making them get headaches. I've seen a lot more bright garish colours in a Nintendo game and yet I dont hear about people getting sick from them.

As I said before, I dont doubt that a very small minority do have legitimate medical problems, but I think most of the complaints are just a case of people not liking change. Any change at all is bad to them.

So_Not_Toast · Jul 30, 2006, 11:06 PM // 23:06

maybe because they dont buy the nintendo game in the first place...

gw didnt have this problem now it does

personally, i dont even remember what the old interface looked like anymore.

however if people are getting headaches after a few hours of play, and anets response is fix it yourself. thats bad for them, and bad for us.

Rururrur · Jul 30, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13

Anyway, for all of you that support those of us with physical issues making it difficult for us to continue playing, thank you. For those of you that don't support us, thanks for expressing your opinions as you have a right to make your own choice.

From all I've heard about Gaile in the past, I'm sure she's doing the best she can and is probably swamped with positive/negative criticism from the new beta weekend, so I can understand why her first post came off the way it did, and I'm sure it was unintentional.

After making a few adjustments, my eyes still hurt, but I'm able to play for about 20-30 minutes at a time now as opposed to 10, but I'll take what I can get. I love this game and the people I've meet through it.

I don't know how much contact PR has with the Devs, but it'd be much appreciated if there was some contact between them so we can get a definate answer on if this issue is even possibly going to be fixed in the near future. I think even a simple color changer would reduce if not eliminate the pain my eyes if an option to change between interfaces is not possible. Or maybe, since the codes for the old interface is still there, would it be possible to release it to the public and give us permission to mod it ourselves? I know there are interface mods for WoW, it'd be nice if we could be allowed to do the same. If the devs are too swamped with upcoming projects to address this themselves, allowing the fanbase to do so could be a simple solution.

Thanks again for a great game.

Trance Addict · Jul 30, 2006, 11:13 PM // 23:13

I just asked 18 people in Guild Wars if they had any problems with the new look of the game. 0 said they did.

Compare the amount of people that don't mind the new interface, to the people that think it's ugly, to the people that can't literaly stand it due to physical problems and you'll notice that it's something like 90%/9.99999%/0.00001%. Most people don't mind it, a few do but they'll get used to it because they're addicted anyways and only 1 person out of 10000 won't be able to play the game because of their health. Sure, it's probably not much work, but it's ArenaNet.

Omega X · Jul 30, 2006, 11:14 PM // 23:14

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Originally Posted by So_Not_Toast

gaile has said that they will not change.

so either re read the post and point out where they have mentioned anything close to saying they will change it, or rethink your view.

They are looking for feedback. This isn't the first time they changed the graphics on the UI.

If enough constructive feedback is given, then the changes will most likely come.

But saying, "IT Hurts us Master", and "I don't like the colors", "Its Just Ugly" or "its Flashy and tasteless".

That's not constructive and won't get any attention other than flaming responses.

There are steps that were POSTED for people to take if the interface bothers you physically. Like Adjust the Gamma to human levels, Fix your color settings on your monitor and OR video card and increase the refresh rate on your monitor. AND see your doctor if the pain continues(you most likely need some sunlight or time away from the monitor). That's not hard to do.

BUT saying that "ANET is insensitive" because it doesn't cater to just you at the drop of a dime, is just selfish. The OP had the right idea about constructively posting her issue. But most of the rest didn't.

(Normally I don't defend ANET but the ignorance is getting on my nerves)

So_Not_Toast · Jul 30, 2006, 11:22 PM // 23:22

grats re so far you have 1 it feels like my eyes are being ripped out, and 18 ya i'm fine!